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  No more Questions from MINIMUS

  by was a new boy in

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  minimus former jw, prolific poster on jwn died.. minimus.

  joined 19 years ago.

  started 4,139 topics.

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  Sea Breeze

  Such a tragedy. If you knew Minimus, you knew a lot. I wonder if his family knew how many on-line friends he had.
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  Resurrection after a death sentence in the OT?

  by EdenOne in

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  i have a question for those more versed in biblical history than i. .

  knowing that a belief in a resurrection on messianic times was a later jewish belief ... but still ... did the ot jews believe that someone served a capital punishment / death sentence would be elegible for future resurrection?.

  meaning: when coding the torah, did its writers intended that the capital punishment also be understood as an obliteration for all eternity?.

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  Sea Breeze

  What about vs. 15 :

  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
  
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  Allegheny Pyramid Desecrated

  by RolRod in

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  sometime within the last 2 weeks, someone took a sledgehammer to the pyramid monument in allegheny.

  they stole the topstone, smashed the cross and crown emblem and removed the seal.. personally i'm surprised it lasted this long untouched.

  although through the years russell's grave has been vandalized, it was always repaired by the bible students..

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  Sea Breeze

  Now, how are supposed to know God's plan for us without a WT. pyramid? Where else could we go?

  
  
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  Resurrection after a death sentence in the OT?

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have a question for those more versed in biblical history than i. .

  knowing that a belief in a resurrection on messianic times was a later jewish belief ... but still ... did the ot jews believe that someone served a capital punishment / death sentence would be elegible for future resurrection?.

  meaning: when coding the torah, did its writers intended that the capital punishment also be understood as an obliteration for all eternity?.

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  Sea Breeze

  VanDH,

  True, they only speak of the surety of judgement after death for everyone. Other scriptures speak of the eternal nature of the soul.
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  Is most of the promotion of creationism, not just that by the WT, charlatanism?

  by Disillusioned JW in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is most of the promotion of creationism, not just that by the wt, charlatanism?.

  https://www.fullmoon.nu/sources.bak/chapter%2010/part%202/gish%20exposed.html [which has an article called "creationism: bad science or immoral pseudoscience?

  - (an expose of creationist dr. duane gish)"] says the following.. 'a look at the "scientific" creationist movement and a close examination of the tactics of a well-known and influential creationist will reveal that the creation "science" movement gains much of its strength through the use of distortion and scientifically unethical tactics.. .... with the facts explained and the lawsuits won, scientists declared victory and returned to their labs and offices.

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  Sea Breeze

  God speaking does not explain how God created. The obvious point is the Bible contains no science. There is no point in trying to make up some science in the Bible. It would also be one huge book or rather library if that was the case.

  Well, I would partly agree that we certainly don't know a lot about the what the information was that was spoken. (That is changing however) But, the fact that scientists are beginning to view life processes (genome code) and now physical matter as information goes a long way in supporting the biblical contention that the information needed to form the universe was simply spoken into existence from the mind of God.
  
  I'm just speaking my mind here.
  
  
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  Is most of the promotion of creationism, not just that by the WT, charlatanism?

  by Disillusioned JW in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is most of the promotion of creationism, not just that by the wt, charlatanism?.

  https://www.fullmoon.nu/sources.bak/chapter%2010/part%202/gish%20exposed.html [which has an article called "creationism: bad science or immoral pseudoscience?

  - (an expose of creationist dr. duane gish)"] says the following.. 'a look at the "scientific" creationist movement and a close examination of the tactics of a well-known and influential creationist will reveal that the creation "science" movement gains much of its strength through the use of distortion and scientifically unethical tactics.. .... with the facts explained and the lawsuits won, scientists declared victory and returned to their labs and offices.

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  Sea Breeze

  JB 75:

  the Bible if taking literally, does not explain how God created

  Sure it does. The bible records exactly how God did it in several places; this is just one:

  By the word of the Lord were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth. - Ps. 33:6

  We are made in God's image. When we speak, information comes out. (for most of us ) Scientists are beginning to understand that not only is the fundamental nature of life information, but matter itself is best explained as mathematical information. Real science is a young earth creationists' and a literal Biblicists' best friend.

  Perhaps you are familiar with the 200 year old two-slit experiment where probability waves collapse into physical photon particles upon observation?
  
  Well, scientists have now done the same thing with matter - atoms (up to a 2000 bundle so far).

  Protons are identical to each other in as much as they really are not little ‘balls’ at all. They are a set of quantum numbers such as spin, isospin, charge, mass and so on.
  

  They do not change regardless if they are part of a helium molecule, argon, gold etc. Likewise, numbers do not change nor wear out either. For instance, you could be using a number 3 and then I could use it later, or even at the same time without diminishment of function. It won't wear out.
  
  It is looking more and more like the fundamental nature of everything (as with genomes for life) is information.

  And, information always comes from a mind.

  Let all the earth fear the LORD: let all the inhabitants of the world stand in awe of him. For he spake, and it was done; he commanded, and it stood fast. - Ps. 33: 8-9

  
  
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  Is most of the promotion of creationism, not just that by the WT, charlatanism?

  by Disillusioned JW in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is most of the promotion of creationism, not just that by the wt, charlatanism?.

  https://www.fullmoon.nu/sources.bak/chapter%2010/part%202/gish%20exposed.html [which has an article called "creationism: bad science or immoral pseudoscience?

  - (an expose of creationist dr. duane gish)"] says the following.. 'a look at the "scientific" creationist movement and a close examination of the tactics of a well-known and influential creationist will reveal that the creation "science" movement gains much of its strength through the use of distortion and scientifically unethical tactics.. .... with the facts explained and the lawsuits won, scientists declared victory and returned to their labs and offices.

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  Sea Breeze

  Here's a gorge that took millions of years to form... not. This location is about 15 minutes from my house and formed in just three days during a flood in 2002. I personally watched it happen.

  
  

  And just look at the smooth contours of this land mass that undoubtedly took millions of years to weather down right?
  
  Wrong. I'm actually older than Surtsey Island.

  
  
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  Liberal idiots now want victims to help those who attacked them.

  by mickbobcat in

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  so this liberal asshat actually wants rape victims to work with the rapists.

  lmao.

  you really have to be brain dead to be a liberal.

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  Sea Breeze

  They are not brain dead. These are well established disorientation techniques employed to diminish innate notions of right and wrong, create psychological instability and to soften up targets.
  
  We ae the target.
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  Is most of the promotion of creationism, not just that by the WT, charlatanism?

  by Disillusioned JW in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is most of the promotion of creationism, not just that by the wt, charlatanism?.

  https://www.fullmoon.nu/sources.bak/chapter%2010/part%202/gish%20exposed.html [which has an article called "creationism: bad science or immoral pseudoscience?

  - (an expose of creationist dr. duane gish)"] says the following.. 'a look at the "scientific" creationist movement and a close examination of the tactics of a well-known and influential creationist will reveal that the creation "science" movement gains much of its strength through the use of distortion and scientifically unethical tactics.. .... with the facts explained and the lawsuits won, scientists declared victory and returned to their labs and offices.

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  Jhine, Old Earth vs. Young Earth is not a salvation issue for sure. But, as time goes on and more and more scientific discoveries are made ... well it just seems obvious.

  
  

  Dinosaur soft tissues, blood cells, vessels and DNA ..... that last 65 Million years? That's longer than it would take for the Rocky Mountains to weather down to sea level from erosion and to reform again!
  
  That takes a tremendous amount of blind faith to believe that don't you think?

  Hundreds of peer-reviewed scientific articles confirm that soft tissue in supposedly deep-age fossils is common... not rare.

  There has never been a better time to be a creationist than now.

  This one is still covered by skin and soft tissues:

  
  
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  Is most of the promotion of creationism, not just that by the WT, charlatanism?

  by Disillusioned JW in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is most of the promotion of creationism, not just that by the wt, charlatanism?.

  https://www.fullmoon.nu/sources.bak/chapter%2010/part%202/gish%20exposed.html [which has an article called "creationism: bad science or immoral pseudoscience?

  - (an expose of creationist dr. duane gish)"] says the following.. 'a look at the "scientific" creationist movement and a close examination of the tactics of a well-known and influential creationist will reveal that the creation "science" movement gains much of its strength through the use of distortion and scientifically unethical tactics.. .... with the facts explained and the lawsuits won, scientists declared victory and returned to their labs and offices.

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  Sea Breeze

  40% of Americans Believe in Creationism

  Creationists love science.... real science.

  List of Not So Old Things

  List of Evidence Against the Big Bang
  List of Big Bang Predictions
  List of Fine Tuning Evidence
  List of Scholars Doubting Darwin
  List of Creation Science Predictions
  List of Shocked Evolutionists
  List of Solar System Formation Problems
  List of Papers that Shock Potheads
  List of Carbon 14 Everywhere it Shouldn't Be
  List of Dinosaur Soft Tissue Journal Papers
  List of Answers to Hydroplate Objections
  List of Proofs for the Genius of Ancient Man
  List of Missing Transitional Fossils
  List of Genomes that Just Don't Fit
  List of Fresh Fossils
  List of Solar System Transient Events
  List of Creationist Fathers of Science
  List of Whale Evolution Problems

  600,000 U.S. Ph.D.s, MDs, and professors, reject the fundamental claim of materialistic origins.